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To Post a Sign or Not to Post a Sign When Selling Your Home? Think Carefully!

CENTURY 21 Sold Sign I once had a lady call me and ask me to list her home for sale. It was in a subdivision of modest priced homes where properties normally sold pretty well if they were priced correctly.

When I got to the home I discovered that she did not want a sign placed in front of her home because she did not want any of her neighbors to know she was selling her home. How silly! She lived in a 55+ subdivision, and often the neighbors in these areas know friends and family that are looking for vacation homes near friends. These neighbors are often the best lead generators in the world.

Though the internet is today trumping signs and printed ads, signs still have a place since the baby-boomers still drive through the retirement subdivisions looking for signs, especially those with information boxes on them. And as I said before, people up north still rely on the information they receive from friends/relatives who already have homes in these areas.

So to say "NO SIGN" in front of your home in a subdivision, especially a 55+ one, is only hurting the seller's chances of finding a good qualified buyer. Of course, if the deed restrictions forbid the display of such signs, that is a different matter and the rules must be adhered to. That was not the case for the property mentioned above.

Now, I still would have taken the listing since I feel my internet prowess could overcome the absence of a sign, but this lady also:

  • Wanted any agent who showed the home to remove any signage from their vehicles.
  • Wanted no "Just Listed" postcards sent out.
  • Wanted no pictures in advertising since her neighbors "might be able to figure out which house it was".
  • Preferred that the agents and their prospective buyers park their cars 1/2 mile away in a hospital's parking lot. Keep in mind that between the home and the hospital was a 4 lane highway with no crosswalks. Can you imagine trying to hustle senior citizens over that road? Not to mention the physical strain of walking that far!

Needless to say, she put so many limitations on my ability to sell her home that I politely declined to take her listing. I think that kind of surprised her. As I recall, her home was on the market for over 2 years before it sold at a hefty discount. Her silly attitude cost her time and thousands of dollars, and for no rational reason.

This came back to mind since I have a current seller who also does not want to have a sign out front. However, in this case, the property is in a subdivision that is in limbo due to the current housing slowdown. Only 4 homes were built in his section before the builder moved on. It will likely be a year or so before construction restarts with a different construction company. So in this case, the lack of a sign will have little effect on me. Few people will be driving through there looking for homes. Plus the seller has bought and sold many properties through me. I am of course going to list this property.

But in a typical subdivision, having a sign out front is not a bad thing, in my opinion. I also like putting information boxes out front. Today, people want information NOW! And I try to give it to them. It also saves on call-after-call asking for basic information like price, number of bedrooms and baths, square footage, HOA fees, etc. I would rather have the buyers see that information rather than call me for it.

I know, I know, some of you will say that to have them call is an opportunity to steer them to another listing. But in my experience, most of them will not allow you to do this. I have yet to have a successful diversion to a different property occur. Just my opinion.

But having that sign up could be just the little bit of extra effort that gets you that buyer in these competitive times. And it certainly cannot harm your chances of selling! So let you agent put up a sign when he/she can.

For more information on this topic, please feel free to call me at: 813-783-4444 or e-mail me at: jelwell1@tampabay.rr.com  You can also visit my main webpage where you will find a lot of useful local information: www.jelwell.century21bnr.com

John Elwell - REALTOR

CENTURY 21

Bill Nye Realty, Inc.

813-783-4444

Licensed in Florida

 

Comment balloon 132 commentsJohn Elwell • May 23 2010 03:42PM

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Hi John, You were smart not to try to list that home.  It would have taken many hours of work and would have been very difficult to make the seller understand the importance of exposure if you weren't able to convince her at the listing appointment.

I sold a listing in a 55+ community not long ago, and it was more difficult to sell than other listings, even though it was a wonderful and gorgeous home, there was a sign out and I distributed flyers and advertised all over the place and held a number of open houses. 

The market is narrower than in a community with no restrictions, so you have to do whatever you can to let people know that it is for sale.

Posted by Susan Neal, Fair Oaks CA & Sacramento Area Real Estate Broker (RE/MAX Gold, Fair Oaks) over 9 years ago

Then on the other hand, in rural areas with no drive by traffic, signage just isn't that important.

Do signs help sell most homes???  Of course. 

Will homes sell without signage?  Of course.

I once lost a listing to a company that told the seller that they could sell his house faster because they had better signs.  HA!  The house was on a cul-ce-sac in a country community with no traffic other than the 7 home owners on the road.

They didn't sell it either.  The house was way overprices. 

 

Posted by Lenn Harley, Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland (Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate) over 9 years ago

You are right Lenn. A sign never hurts, in my opinion. But in some cases they are less effective than in others. That is why I an not so worried about the home I am about to list. With only 4 homes built there and no building activity, there is little to draw people into the empty subdivision. However, in the 55+ subdivisions, it is a common weekend activity for buyers to have lunch and then drive through the subdivisions to see what is out there for sale. Part of that may also be due to the fact that, thought seniors DO use the internet more than many suspect, they still hold onto the old ways of looking for signs.

Perhaps it is a bit like open houses. Those are much more effective in subdivisions (though they still perform poorly here even in those area) than they are out in the country. At least in the subdivisons wise buyers have an idea of what the homes are like, what the price range can be, what amenities are available, etc. An isolated house is a complete unknown to an openhouse visitor. And in many cases, not their cup of tea for a varietly of reasons. And that is if you can even get visitors to stop by.

But as I said, signs never hurt in my opinion. So if possible, I put one up. If nothing else it gets my name out there since I never place a sign without also putting my name rider on top of it.

Posted by John Elwell, You Deserve a Full-Time Agent, Not Reduced Results (CENTURY 21 Bill Nye Realty, Inc.) over 9 years ago

Sounds like not having that listing was a blessing and would have taken a LOT of time.

Posted by Bob & Carolin Benjamin, East Phoenix Arizona Homes (Benjamin Realty LLC) over 9 years ago

You are right Bob and Carolin. I have a pretty full schedule and not really a lot of time to work with unreasonable sellers, or buyers for that matter. This lady was way over the top and I am glad that I was not the one who had to take the heat when she got frustrated that her home was not getting any visitors. Sometimes when you lose you win! :)

Posted by John Elwell, You Deserve a Full-Time Agent, Not Reduced Results (CENTURY 21 Bill Nye Realty, Inc.) over 9 years ago

What is it about the home owners in the 55+ communities whereby they do not want signs, often don't even want the property listed. 

"Just find me a buyer", they wisper.. 

Their neighbors don't even know their home is for sale.

I sold a home in a 55+ condo community in MD a few years ago.  I know. . . you're surprised that I would qualify for a 55+ home, HA!

I did not put up a sign because I was my own listing agent and as a Buyer Broker, don't have much in the way of signs.  I put it in the MLS, put up a web site for it and a cash buyer from NY saw it and drove down an bought it the second week. 

Several agents who sell in that community called and said it would "never sell at that price". 

HA!

 

Posted by Lenn Harley, Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland (Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate) over 9 years ago

John, good for you.  Some sellers are so hard to consult that they aren't worth our time and our effort.  Go get another better listing!

Posted by Kent Dills, Real Estate 817-495-8028, Bellingham, Washington (Broker, Dills Real Estate) over 9 years ago

If she didn't want "just listed" or a For Sale sign, I can understand that.  But to dictate where the buyers and their agents' needed to park to tour her property -- seriously?!? 

Posted by Carla Muss-Jacobs, RETIRED (RETIRED / State License is Inactive) over 9 years ago

Yes, it is sometimes funny how they do not want the very people who could help them sell their homes, know that it is for sale. I often find that my best helpers are the neighbors in the same subdivision or park. Ha, ha, I have another one who is just as sweet as can be. She is listing her home this Tuesday with me, but does not want the sign to go up until after she has left to go back up north. Luckily, in many of the parks and subdivisions I have made a good name for myself, so when I tell them how they will be crippling my efforts, they usually will come around and let me do my thing. Of course, if they get too outrageous like the seller in my post, then it is "hasta la vista" for me. I take sellable listings, not lost causes.

Posted by John Elwell, You Deserve a Full-Time Agent, Not Reduced Results (CENTURY 21 Bill Nye Realty, Inc.) over 9 years ago

I think you did the right thing, not taking the listing.  I have found that people with that mindset will just keep adding more roadblocks as you go along.  I can just see you crossing the freeway followed by a walker and a hover round.

Posted by Larry Johnston, Broker,Friends & Neighbors Real Estate, Elkhart,IN (Broker, Friends & Neighbors Real Estate and Elkhart County Subdivisions, LLC) over 9 years ago

John: I could try to be funny and say it's a sign of the times, but it really isn't -- and it's not worth the effort.

Posted by Aaron Vaughn | Builder | Investor, If the deal makes sense, the cash will follow. (Conifer Homes) over 9 years ago

For me: no sign = I'm not going to list your house (unless the deed restrictions do not allow signs).  It is part of my marketing the home and if they want to restrict my marketing efforts then they've already told me they aren't really interested in selling their house. 

Posted by Jennifer Archambeault, An Austin Texas Realtor (Cardani Group, REALTORS® - Austin Texas ) over 9 years ago

How silly! She wanted OLDER PEOPLE to have to walk 1/2 mile to be able to see her house. If I asked a buyer of any age to walk half a mile to see a house (instead of just parking right out front, of course), he'd have thought I was nuts. I wonder what that seller was so afraid of...

Posted by Shannon Lewis, Realtor, Broker - Champaign-Urbana, IL (Beringer Realty) over 9 years ago

I agree with the comments. If a seller wants to tie my hands right from the start, I have a pretty good idea of how things will likely go down the road. There are so many cooperative sellers out there who are fun to work with, I choose not to use my time on those who make unreasonable demands or have unrealistic goals. My job is to sell homes for my clients, not sit on listings that have no chance of selling.

Posted by John Elwell, You Deserve a Full-Time Agent, Not Reduced Results (CENTURY 21 Bill Nye Realty, Inc.) over 9 years ago

Parking 1/2 mile away on that kind of busy street is as silly as not wanting a sign.  I would have made the same decision that you did.  Well done in my book!

Posted by 1~Judi Barrett, BS Ed, Integrity Real Estate Services -IDABEL OK (Integrity Real Estate Services 118 SE AVE N, Idabel, OK 74745) over 9 years ago

Ah yes, the covert marketing plan.  Sell my house just don't let anyone know that it's for sale!

People have a right to privacy, but really, very few people have such interesting lives that their home sale needs to be confidential.  Interesting story!

Posted by Kathryn Acciari, Brand Ambassador and Business Coach (Century 21 Real Estate) over 9 years ago

John...

Sorry, no sign, no listing. If for no other reason than to help buyer's agent find the property. The only exception is communities that prohibit all signs.

Posted by Richard Weisser, Richard Weisser Retired Real Estate Professional (Richard Weisser Realty) over 9 years ago

I had visions of people in Hover-Round trying to negoiate 4 lanes of traffic with no crosswalks. When she told me that, I pretty much wrapped up our meeting and left. No tears in my eyes. Sometimes you have to wonder what people are thinking. And my guess is that if you asked those sellers to do the very same thing they want the buyers to do, they would be highly insulted. What you wanna bet?

Posted by John Elwell, You Deserve a Full-Time Agent, Not Reduced Results (CENTURY 21 Bill Nye Realty, Inc.) over 9 years ago

In places where there were a lot of foreclosed properties, a sign would advertise 'hey, I'm empty, come on in'.  I don't have a problem with folks not wanting a sign or just listed cards.  Everything else though is unreasonable.

Posted by Cynthia Larsen, Independent Broker In Sonoma County, CA over 9 years ago

Hmm... it's great to accommodate a seller, but this is going way too far.

Posted by Rob Lang, Local Expert in Lawrence Kansas Real Estate Homes (At Home Kansas Team Powered by Keller Williams Partners Inc / www.AskRobLang.com) over 9 years ago

I wonder what the lady was scared of? I know when the sale sign goes up, you can fell vulnerable, like everyone is looking and talking about you. That is the idea right? 

Posted by Deborah Wilson, Stark County OH Real Estate (Hackenberg Realty Group) over 9 years ago

John, 

It's important to know the clients you do want.  Which, in turn separates out the clients you DO NOT want.  You can't please everyone and it's important to know who you can do business for. 

What is funny, is that people give all kinds of clues to how they work & think - by the little things they do or don't do.  

All the best, Michelle

Posted by Michelle Francis, Realtor, Buckhead Atlanta Homes for Sale & Lease (Tim Francis Realty LLC) over 9 years ago

No sign, you can get over.  The rest sounds pretty suspisous. Run don't walk.

Posted by Ross Therrien, Realtor, Broker Associate (Prudential Verani Realty, Londonderry,New Hampshire) over 9 years ago

In my experience, a sign makes little difference, and I really don't care if someone does or does not want a sign.  Now... on the other hand... putting restrictions such as co-op REALTORS removing signage from their car, parking a long distance from the property are things that do handicap a sale.  Buyers have many homes to see, and the seller/agent need to make it as convenient as possible for buyers to inspect a home.

Posted by Margaret Woda, Maryland Real Estate & Military Relocation (Long & Foster Real Estate, Inc.) over 9 years ago

I once had a luxury property, and the seller requested no sign which is pretty common.  I still staiyed on them to put one up.  After a few months they agreed and we put one up.  And guess what?  Yep.  Someone walked by, saw the sign, and bought the house.

Posted by John Cameron, Real Estate Investing Seattle Tacoma (VITUS Realty, LLC) over 9 years ago

I always wonder why someone wouldn't want a sign.  The neighbors are going to find out anyway via the grapevine and when they see strange people walking around the house.

Secret listings won't sell.  I always tell my people the for sale sign is a 24 hr silent salesman.  If someone calls from the sign, they already the like the the house well enough to see the inside.

Posted by Jenny Kotulak, Broker - Oakville Ontario Real Estate (RE/MAX Real Estate Centre Inc., Brokerage) over 9 years ago

The hike from the hospital lot would either shape you up or ensure no showings--I can't think of a single client that would want to see a property if they had to walk a mile round trip!  Crazy.  I tell prospective sellers I don't take "secret listings."

Posted by Norma Toering Broker for Palos Verdes and Beach Cities, Palos Verdes Luxury Homes in L.A. (Charlemagne International Properties) over 9 years ago

I would have taken the listing.  A really smart agent will be able to hopefully get her to change her mind about some of her odd requests.  A listing is a true opportunity to sell a home and possibly pick up buyers.  I've had one or two clients who have not wanted signs in the yard, mainly due to nosy neighbors but not having a sign is not too big of a deal.

You were well within your rights to not take the listing but you could have missed a golden opportunity and of course we'll never know.

Posted by Russell Benson, We'd love to close your deal at Old Republic! (Old Republic Title) over 9 years ago

With all the other restrictions requested by the seller, I wouldn't have wanted a sign on that property .. it would have been there forever!  Wouldn't make me look good ..

Posted by Glenda Cherry, Realtor / Photographer (Keller Williams Realty) over 9 years ago

I think it was very smart to walk away from a 2 year listing. What a waste of time and resources that would have been. I am all for signs, if for no other reason other than it makes the home easier to find when I am showing.:)

Posted by Barb Szabo, CRS, E-pro Realtor, Cleveland Ohio Homes (RE/MAX Trinity Brecksville Ohio) over 9 years ago

Russell, I guess I am a really dumb agent then. On a $50,000 mobile, I am pretty sure that I did not miss a golden opportunity. Also being in a small town I DO know how it turned out. Did not sell for two years and for much less than the asking price. Sorry, I do not play games with people like that. She was not going to get more cooperative in the future and from what I saw, I would have been blamed for the lack of showings. The sellers here seldom accept the responsibility for making some bad decisions and tying my hands.

As I mentioned in my post, the no sign rule, I could play with since I do a lot more internet work that most local agents and I have other ways of getting the word out as well. But her restrictions were so crazy, there was no way I could go along with them. And who knows what other surprises she could have down the road that were not reasonable. Weird showing times, fights over inspections, wanting to stay in the home after closing, removing fixtures or arguing over the inventory. Sorry, this was a bag of trouble that I was glad to leave sitting in the shopping cart, thank you very much :)

Posted by John Elwell, You Deserve a Full-Time Agent, Not Reduced Results (CENTURY 21 Bill Nye Realty, Inc.) over 9 years ago

Hi John.  Sounds like a difficult sale.  Maybe the seller really didn't want to sell their home?  We list homes in 55+ communities and get a lot of calls off our signs.  I can't see trying to sell a home without a sign.  It's like going across the desert with a half tank of gas. 

Posted by Joyce Thomas, Your Home Sold Guaranteed! (The Thomas Group Brokered by eXp Realty) over 9 years ago

This is very interesting, John, to say the least. It makes sense to have signs on a property advertising that it is for sale, esp. single family properties. A seller who insisted in overpricing his property didn't get a sign - not because he didn't want one, but because my broker didn't think it was worth the expense - it would never sell at his price. Anyone not wanting a sign should not list their home, and you were wise to not take that listing.

Posted by William James Walton Sr., Greater Waterbury Real Estate (WEICHERT, REALTORS® - Briotti Group) over 9 years ago

In this market William you need a bag full of tricks to help you get the best price for your clients and sell it in a reasonable amount of time. Sellers who are constantly fighting you at every turn are not worth the effort. I know agents who will take a seller like this and hope that he or she can be persuaded to change later on. But that is like taking a listing that is way overpriced and hoping the seller will later drop the price. From what I have seen, down the road, the seller will blame the agent. He may drop the price, but will likely do it when the listing expires and he has hired another agent. Why? Because he blames the first agent for not doing enough to sell his overpriced home. God forbid that the seller would accept the blame. I have seen that scenario happen many times. In fact, I now have a listing that another agent lost. It was priced too high. I got it and the seller immediately dropped the price for me. Surprise!!!

And as someone mentioned just above, to have your sign sitting on a home for two years in a subdivision is a very "good" way of making neighbors think that you are not such a good agent. They do not know the details, but that sign is saying "John cannot sell this home in two years!!!" Not the message I want to send.

Posted by John Elwell, You Deserve a Full-Time Agent, Not Reduced Results (CENTURY 21 Bill Nye Realty, Inc.) over 9 years ago

John - Sounds like there were simply too many barriers on that particular house, and you would have been working uphill.  You were wise not to pursue it.

Posted by Jason Crouch, Broker - Austin Texas Real Estate (512-796-7653) (Austin Texas Homes, LLC) over 9 years ago

I'd say that was the right decision. A pretty whacked situation.

Signs certainly don't hurt, but in this day and age one has to wonder how much they help, other than to provide notice. I'm sure some buyers find their homes that way but it is likely more to the agent's advantage...unless the sign sits there forever. I expect you find, as we do, that in communities you cannot post signs at all. And things continue to sell.

Jeff

Posted by Jeff Dowler, CRS, The Southern California Relocation Dude (Solutions Real Estate ) over 9 years ago

John, I have to confess... as I read your list of "what-nots" I thought she must struggle with a mental illness. Seriously. That is paranoia or something there... I don't blame you for not taking it. You can't climb an uphill mountain just to see the disturbed get a full price offer and decline it because the buyers have a dog and she hates dogs or behavior far more odd than all that before mentioned. I mean, the sign is one thing. The rest? Age did not bring wisdom.

Posted by Kristen Correa, Broker, I love coffee & real estate. I am out of coffee! (Kristen Correa Real Estate & Reedy Creek Realty Services) over 9 years ago

Good ofr you on not taking the listing.  There are some sellers who just demand too much from us as agents.  I inform my cleints that I do as much as I can to get them a qualified buyer.  Now is they call off a sign that is great.

Posted by Shawn Murray, Omaha NE - 402-250-7869 ( RE/MAX The Producers) over 9 years ago

You made the right decision to decline the listing. I could deal with no sign but I would never make showing agents jump through hoops to show a listing. There are pleanty of other agents who will take those listings.

Posted by Aaron Poling, Working to get YOU the BEST Deal! (Long & Foster) over 9 years ago

I agree that not taking the listing was the right decision.  There were too many limitations in letting you sell the home.

In general, I like to have a sign. It's good advertising to those who live there and might want to choose their neighbors as well as those who visit the neighborhood.

Posted by Christine Donovan, Broker/Attorney 714-319-9751 DRE01267479 - Costa M (Donovan Blatt Realty) over 9 years ago

Here, there are some areas where placing a sign would suggest "vacant" and spur vandalism. In those areas I do recommend no sign...but for the rest of our areas I highly encourage a yard sign. Nevertheless, lack of a sign would not deter me as my other marketing techniques do draw buyers. As for the rest of your sellers requests...no way! I would have declined the listing too

Posted by Farida Touma (Real Living Great Lakes Real Estate) over 9 years ago

I stop at the no sign order. .I can appreciate that request but to ask the other things? . . "Lady, I have an idea why NOT put your house for sale"

Posted by Fernando Herboso - Broker for Maxus Realty Group, 301-246-0001 Serving Maryland, DC and Northern VA (Maxus Realty Group - Broker 301-246-0001) over 9 years ago

I've heard of wanting a quiet sale. But the draconian restrictions that prospective client had would be impossible for me also. 

Posted by J. Philip Faranda, Broker-Owner (J. Philip Faranda (J. Philip R.E. LLC) Westchester County NY) over 9 years ago

Sounds like the great sign debate was the least of the potential problems with this would-be seller! Internet marketing with NO pictures? Riiigghhttt....

Posted by SarahGray Lamm, Realtor - 100K Hours of NC Real Estate Experience (Allen Tate Realtors Chapel Hill, NC 919-819-8199 ) over 9 years ago

I think signs are extremely helpful in getting the property to sell.  I can understand if you had a "tacky-looking" sign but if that is not the case, she was missing out on a great opportunity for exposure.  It also helps everyone to actually find the home in order to show it. Someone who really wants to sell should not put up these types of restrictions, really.

 

Posted by Claudette Millette, Buyer, Broker - Metrowest Mass (The Buyers' Counsel) over 9 years ago

John,

Like you and many others, I wouldn't have taken that listing either.  I always do signs where/as permitted.  For my higher end properties, I use signs on wooden posts - classier than the standard stick-in-the-ground. (A contractor digs the hole, inserts the post and removes it upon my say so. I just hang my sign.)

Yes, it costs a bit each time I do this. Just part of my marketing expenses. The sellers really like the post signs.

Posted by Irene Kennedy Realtor® in Northwestern NJ (Weichert) over 9 years ago

Signs still rank high up in terms of getting a house sold as being the main catalyst for the sale !  In addition, it provides great exposure for the listing office and the listing agent.  We get that objection sometimes too and will compromise by saying if it has not sold in the first month, then a sign will go up.  Most folks typically agree to that.

Posted by The Somers Team, Real People. Real Dreams. Real Estate. (The Somers Team at RE/MAX Access) over 9 years ago

John, in my business a sign is the most important advertisement a seller can have. With the restrictions this seller put on you, I wouldn't have taken the listing. Thanks.

Posted by Michael Setunsky, Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA over 9 years ago

So if buyers / agents had to park 1/2 mile away they were supposed to walk that far?   Good luck to the "lucky" agent that gets that listing!

Posted by Pippa Mac, The Woodlands TX Real Estate (Chevaux Group Realtor, The Woodlands and Spring) over 9 years ago

Ah...the secret sale.  Does not sound like a very smart way to market anything. With so many homes on the market, those types of restrictions will just cause buyers to go elsewhere.  And as for the agent, it is still a great way to get new business.  I have had two closings since January just on folks who called off one of my listings.

Posted by Kathryn Maguire, Serving Chesapeake, Norfolk, VA Beach (GreatNorfolkHomes.com (757) 560-0881) over 9 years ago

John,  No way I would have taken the listing either.  We are in the business to sell homes.  I also spend my money based upon my marketing plan to help sell the homes.  If from a practical business sense, I do not think there is any way for me to accomplish the goal of the seller "to sell their home" and thereby make money selling their home to pay my bills the business answer has to be NO.

Posted by Kimberly Thurm, Broker / Relocation Consultant ABR, CRS, GRI, SFR (Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices KoenigRubloff, Naperville, IL) over 9 years ago

John,

nice relaxed response to Russel.

Russell, chill out buddy ....this is an enjoyable forum.

Posted by Steve and Jan Bachman, Realtors - Northern Virginia (RE/MAX Gateway, Reston, Herndon, Ashburn, Sterling, Fairfax ) over 9 years ago

This was an interesting story.  I agree with Kristen - I am struck by the fact that the worman may have been suffering from some degree of mental illness.  Too bad there were no supportive others around her (family?) that might have been able to help steer her in a more reasonable manner.  Definitely a wise decision on your part, though, John.

Posted by Leanna Putman (Shanna Selections, LLC) over 9 years ago

I can respect the lady's feelings. Some people feel that a sign is a sign of trouble. That said. I wonder if she was just hoping that someone would just leave cash at the end of the driveway -- discreetly wrapped in brown paper, of course.

Posted by Leslie Ebersole, I help brokers build businesses they love. (Swanepoel T3 Group) over 9 years ago

I have a very expensive home listed. The seller didn't want a sign.

I convinced him otherwise.

Wow, I get calls all day as my Call capture collects them. I WAS SHOCKED  how many people drove down the gravel country road.

I had a home listed last year, in a small sub, not paved. They didn't want a sign. Ok I got very little activity on that house.

Posted by Missy Caulk, Savvy Realtor - Ann Arbor Real Estate (Missy Caulk TEAM) over 9 years ago

I have long ago given up the notion that I can predict human behavior. Good thing we have out-of-the-ordinary buyers and sellers from time to time to keep our lives interesting and make us think! That said, I cherish those who act sanely and rationally - oh, and are nice people, to boot!

Posted by Debbe Perry, 828.439.3084 Morganton/Lake James NC (Real Living Carolina Property ) over 9 years ago

John -- I'm with you on that client.  I had one similar and told him I wouldn't list. There were other issues, too.  He came back to me, though, and agreed to the sign.  I believe the sign and info box (I see you use them too) filled with high quality brochures are an important part of the overall marketing of the property. 

Posted by Barbara Altieri, REALTOR-Fairfield County CT Homes/Condos For Sale (Kinard Realty Group - RealtyQuest Team, Fairfield and New Haven County CT Real Estate) over 9 years ago

Sometimes people really don't want to sell.  It looks to me like she finally decided to sell it 2 years after it listed. 

Posted by Monica Hess, Kentucky's Feng Shui Master (Feng Shui This Kentucky) over 9 years ago

I didn't know you changed professions and moved to the covert agent status!!!  Cracked me up - make me remove my expensive signs from MY car to show YOUR listing - what, I'm supposed to drive around with a screwdriver to remove my plate holder - ain't gonna happen!!!  Good one declining and moving on. 

Posted by Juli Vosmik, Scottsdale/Cave Creek, AZ real estate 480-710-0739 (Dominion Fine Properties) over 9 years ago

Just did 2 listing presentations yesterday due to a signage I had at a home I had just sold in the area. They both called me due to the SOLD sign hanging on my original Sign Pole. They called me because of the short amount of time from putting up the sign to attaching a SOLD rider and also that I have one of the only SOLD riders in that area. Great advertising oh I also double-dipped that home from the sign rider with my number on it.

Posted by Duane Murphy, Broker- Owner-Real Estate - (Expert Real Estate Partners LLC) over 9 years ago

No sign to me is like putting a red flag out in front instead that means "I do not really want to sell! " I put up with a "no sign" for six months and now  another company is waving the red flag.

Posted by Peter Rhein (PCS) over 9 years ago

I use my favorite cliche, you say with all due respect, "I'd rather turn you down, then let you down".

Posted by Don Spera, Serving York and Adams County, PA (CR Property Group, LLC) over 9 years ago

I don't think the For Sale sign is the real issue here.  What is the real issue is this seller's rampant neuroses, which would have made it nearly impossible to work for/with her.  You were 100% right for declining that listing. Good job! 

Posted by Chuck Gollay (Exit Realty Paramount) over 9 years ago

John

If I get the "go" ahead to place a sign, I jump all over it....I place "them" strategically and for maximum exposure...

Thank you

Posted by Richie Alan Naggar, agent & author (people first...then business Ran Right Realty ) over 9 years ago

Reminds me of a listing that had been on the market for two years. When asked why there was no sign..sellers were afraid that it might bring attention to a vacant property..Duh! 

Even thought the previous price was reasonable. Listed the property with signage and had the back adjacent neighbors (a church ) call the first day. They were praying the property would be available but did not know how to reach the seller. SOLD full list price! Sure convinced me of a sign's importance.

John, I could have made a blog out of this.

Posted by Margaret Rome, Baltimore Maryland, Sell Your Home With Margaret Rome ( HomeRome Realty 410-530-2400) over 9 years ago

I think  you need to use every tool in the box to sell a house, and to leave any out is a disservice to the client (and lazy besides). And please keep that flyer box full! I can't tell you how many times I've driven by a promising house, stopped for a flyer, and found boxes empty. If yoy don't want to be bothered, then pay for a service that allows potential buyers to call in for recorded information.

Posted by Omnivore over 9 years ago

John,  I would have declined the listing as well!  I really do ask that they allow a sign...I do have a townhouse right now with no sign, but the seller was certainly warned that they are limiting their exposure.

Posted by John Howard, GRI, Mountain Home, Arkansas 870-404-3614 (Century 21 LeMac Realty) over 9 years ago

nice story...good one for overcoming objections...a sign will never hurt a well priced listing

Posted by Vince McEveety (Gilleran Griffin Realty) over 9 years ago

That is an incredible set of restrictions! 

Posted by Brenda Carus (Century 21 Zwygart Real Estate) over 9 years ago

Yep, that was a pip. I am pretty sure that the listing agent that got it really worked for the money. And trust me, the commission on that one was not a rich one.

Posted by John Elwell, You Deserve a Full-Time Agent, Not Reduced Results (CENTURY 21 Bill Nye Realty, Inc.) over 9 years ago

No sign, no pictures, no buyer traffic...What are you some sort of miracle worker?  Lucky you were smart enough to walk away.

 

Posted by Jenna Dixon, Empowers You With a Better Real Estate Experience (DRA Homes | Cobb County Real Estate ) over 9 years ago

Our company tracks as much as they can with regards to where sales originate.  We have found that 20-25% of our sales originate from our signs, so unless there are restrictions regarding signage, they are getting a sign!

Posted by Chad Boyers (The Danberry Co.- Toledo, Perrysburg, Sylvania, & NW OH) over 9 years ago

Great thread.

Years ago , I got tired of wasting time with this type of unrealistic seller.

I let every potential seller know very early in any interview/listing appointment or buyer agent interview...residential, commercial, or ag listings...that when we first meet it is a 2-way interview. 

He/she/they are interviewing me to see if I am right for the job in their eyes...and I am interviewing them to see if they qualify to be a client of mine.

It is one of the best things I have ever started doing as it weeds out the kooks very early in the process.  I have no problem saying "No thanks" to a potential serious headache.

Also, I put a sign up on every ag or rural residential listing...why wouldn't you try to capture every set of eyes that drives by or goes to the neighbors? Not very many eyes makes a good sign even more important.

Mike McCann...your nebraska ag expert.

    

Posted by Mike McCann - Nebraska Farm Land Broker, Farm Land For Sale 308-627-3700 or 800-241-3940 (Mike McCann - Broker, Mach1 Realty Farmland Broker-Auctioneer Serving Rural Nebraska) over 9 years ago

Wow, I thought I had seen some doozies, but her list top's the cake!  It is truly sad when sellers will not take professional advice.  Unfortunately, many need to learn the hard way before they get it.

Posted by Kristen Wheatley, Supporting Success - Best Job in the World! (Better Homes & Gardens | The Masiello Group) over 9 years ago

Hahaha...this was a great story...there was aboslutely nothing that you could do for that person..."walk from a 1/2 mile away" was an amazing request...Sellers don't realize we do this as a business...they think just because we are Realtors, we will take every listing and be grateful to have it...

I have someone I am working with right now who is contemplating listing their condo...in the meantime, would prefer when I come to see them at this time that I don't look like a Realtor with folders and briefcase...until they are ready to put it on the market, then they would be happy to have me there "daily with an open house" since at that time it will be vacant...In the meantime, I prefer to have "coffee" with them outside of their home...we have been discussing "staging to sell"...

Posted by Janet Zasada, PA (A Delta Realty) over 9 years ago

I think a sign is important but in the US where some communities have so many for sale units it is a rather depressing sight!

Posted by Donna Webber (ArcRealty Inc., Real Estate Brokerage, Toronto, ON, Canada ) over 9 years ago

John,

It seems that the people that reside in these communities do have the paranoids.  I have had more than my share of experience with them telling me how I should market their homes.  I usually decline.

As far as putting up a sign.  I ALWAYS put one up if allowed.  I have many calls on the sign and some are just information calls, but I am writing an offer on another property that better suits them.  The original call was on a 54 acre farm (No.  The sign doesn't say that.)  Turns out they only need 5 acres so I have been looking for them since August.  We finally met face-to-face on the property we are writing the offer on.  I am working with 3 other buyers off of this same sign.

I don't do sign flyer boxes as it is the neighbors that seem to take all of those.

Jayne

Posted by Jayne Williamson, REALTOR, Broker, GRI (Keller Williams Realty Mountain Partners, Hendersonville, NC) over 9 years ago

The not being able to put up a sign could be overcome, but parking a 1/2 mi. away and not being able to have pics would have ended it for me too.

Posted by Wade Kawahara (Dominion Real Estate Partners, LLC) over 9 years ago

You made the right call. Had a similar one (but without the long walk): no sign, no open houses, no post cards.  After a couple of months they took it off the market, saying "we're not getting any showings so we might as well stay".

Posted by Jan Stevens (Coldwell Banker Pittsburgh) over 9 years ago

I think not wanting a sign is fine  - sometime there are safety issues.  I am surprised how many times sellers allow people to come into their homes (without an agent) to view a home for sale.  Also, some neighborhoods here (Las Vegas) are so covered with sale signs it really makes a neighborhood look terrible.  I often have buyers decide against a house because there were too many for sale signs on a street.  I often will start inputting the street address in my phone to show them - that home is sold, that one is contingent ...

However, the other items - too much trouble. 

Posted by Cindy Abel, Broker/Owner - Las Vegas Homes and Real Estate (Southern Nevada Realty, LLC) over 9 years ago

Trying to be a 'secret seller' is unbelievable. I understand the 'no sign', but not the requirement that agent's cars not be marked. I have custom plates RLTR4UU...can't take off the plates!

Posted by Vickie Nagy, Vickie Jean the Palm Springs Condo Queen (Coldwell Banker Residential Real Estate) over 9 years ago

Signs can also help potential buyers when they go out for a drive to identify the home they saw online-especially when many of the homes look the same.

Posted by Corinne Guest, Barrington Lifestyles (Corinne Guest, REALTOR® | Barrington Realty Company) over 9 years ago

I think there was a reason for not wanting a sign that she is not telling you. She wanted to move without someone in the neighborhood knowing she was selling.

Many years ago I was an assistant to an agent that had a listing and the requests were similar, except for the hike. Her reason was that she had recently backed out of her driveway and ran over a neighbor's child and killed her. Her and her kids were devastated and just couldn't face the neighbors anymore. Their goal was to quietly just disappear.

Another one was where the wife wanted to move and didn't want her ex-husband to know about it. She new that one of the neighbors would call him if she put her house on the market.

So the lady you are writing about probably has a big reason for selling discreetly and she doesn't even want you to know what it is.

Posted by Linda Christopher, Property Manager & Real Estate Sales over 9 years ago

People do still call from signs - in my area anyway - and even though harder in rural areas, signs and directionals if permitted can be helpful. It's hard enough selling homes in this market - if the seller will not allow generally accepted and typically effective market methods, it's probably best not to list the home.

Posted by Susan Thompson-Solomons, Southern MD Real Estate-Solomons Specialist (Berkshire Hathaway Home Services McNelis Group Properties) over 9 years ago

It never ceases to amaze me how many sellers do not want a sign out front.  Your title drew me because I just had that same conversation with one of my sellers this morning. 

Though the internet is today trumping signs and printed ads, signs still have a place since the baby-boomers still drive through the retirement subdivisions looking for signs, especially those with information boxes on them. And as I said before, people up north still rely on the information they receive from friends/relatives who already have homes in these areas.

It is not a retirement community but you never know when a sign will catch someone's eye.  Unfortunately he is still not convinced.  Sigh....

Posted by Debbie Walsh, Hudson Valley NY Real Estate 845.283-3036 (Shahar Management) over 9 years ago

This is an interesting post about a frustrating client.   She truly wanted to tie your hands.

Posted by Sharon Parisi, Dallas Homes (United Real Estate Dallas ) over 9 years ago

No sign?  No, thanks!

Posted by Patsy Overton (Patsy Overton Interiors, Atlanta, Georgia) over 9 years ago

I had a seller that did not want a sign in the yard until they moved out.   Needless to say, it didn't sell.  Listing expired. 

Posted by Angelia Garcia (Pure Realtors) over 9 years ago

I had a similar situation a couple months back. She didn't want a sign or postcards and when I told her that I spoke with a couple agents and investors she told me she didn't want any other agents involved. I had to move on at that point.

Posted by Brandon DeVere (Force Realty) over 9 years ago

John, i don't get bothered if they do not want a sign. However, I agree with you on the other points that she was dictating. I would have declined also.

Posted by Ted Tyndall, I will help You find the Home YOU want to Buy (Davidson Realty Inc.) over 9 years ago

Great choice to pass on her. We choose who we take on as clients based on our business ethics and practices!

Posted by non non over 9 years ago

Sometimes signs are useless!  It's very difficult to see a sign on the 20th floor of a condo without highpower binoculars!  But I always put up a sign if it's allowed!  I've got a lot of mileage out of a sign!

Posted by Kathy Opatka, Serving Ocean City, MD, & The Delaware Beaches (RE/MAX CROSSROADS) over 9 years ago
I have no problem with no sign. In fact I have some distressed properties that are in such bad condition I won't place a sign!!! I know that's pretty sad. The lady in your example though really didn't want to sell. I too would have passed on that one.
Posted by Bryant Tutas, Selling Florida one home at a time (Tutas Towne Realty, Inc and Garden Views Realty, LLC) over 9 years ago

I do think signs are important. Once I had a listing expire and at that time I moved to a company that has bright red and yellow signs. The sellers re-listed with me and the only thing that changed was the sign. But our showings tripled!

Posted by Joetta Fort, Independent Broker, Homes Denver to Boulder (The DiGiorgio Group) over 9 years ago

I agree about the sign and fliers.  Fliers are a tool to sell the home.  I am a fan of being environmentally friendly; however, there are not many options that match it.  You are right about callers; they rarely allow you to show them something else. 

Aaron

Posted by Aaron Silverman, Improving Real Estate Experience through Education (SuccessfulRental.com, Bluewater Property Management, LLC and Lowcountry Turnkey Properties, LLC) over 9 years ago

That first listing had HEADACHE written all over it. I think you bring up some good points- pricing and location have more pull than a sign. I definitely push for a sign, though.

Posted by Mark Smith (Cherry Creek Properties, LLC) over 9 years ago

Although the owner may not have wanted signage, or even car magnetics displayed, these issues could be respected if not overcome. With regarg to the 1/2 mile walk, I think this could have been solved with some conflict resolution skill. If it is a 55+ home, then I am sure the seller could come to understand that someone 60 or 70 may not be willing or able to walk that distance. If a seller actually has a reason to sell, other than just trying their luck in the market, then this must be dealt with.

My experience with callers has been quite different. My first deal was from a call from a Craigslist ad; I showed them the listing, which did not suit them, and I promtly showed them other properties that were suitable, and closed the deal. I am now working on my third deal with the same client.

I have no problem taking sign calls (from whichever medium) to other listings, so I disagree with your blog on a couple of points, but otherwise, thanx for the perspective.

Posted by Jordy Brisbin (Sutton Centre Realty) over 9 years ago

Sorry, Jordy. I was a school teacher and a school administrator here and in Spain for 20 years and have good conflict resolution skills. This was an issue that the lady was not willing to negotiate, period. And in this particular subdivision one has to tread very lightly when dealing with its residents. I know this since I live here and am more familiar with the situation. This seller WAS NOT going to waver from what she wanted. Being an older person herself, she fully understood the impediments that she was creating. But keeping her neighbors from knowing that she was selling was higher on her list of priorities.

Posted by John Elwell, You Deserve a Full-Time Agent, Not Reduced Results (CENTURY 21 Bill Nye Realty, Inc.) over 9 years ago

John,

Most complexes that don't allow signs on the property allow them at the entrance to the complex. I always sign a property.

Posted by Terry Chenier (Homelife Glenayre Realty) over 9 years ago

You are correct Terry. If signs are not allowed in the yard, you can sometimes put them in the window of the unit or post a card at the clubhouse. But in this case that was not the problem. A typical sign could be posted out front. Funny thing is that there are NO secrets in the 55+ subdivisions in our area. Everyone knows what is going on. And this is normally a pretty good thing since people tend to keep an eye out for each other. With so many elderly single people here, the residents and their families have some peace of mind knowing that neighbors are there to help if needed. But to think that the lack of a sign would keep your home marketing activities a secret is just wishful thinking.

The no sign order was of course not why I turned down the listing. Though research shows they do have value in many situations, especially in these types of areas. It was the other outrageous restrictions that caused me to not accept the listing. Regardless of her reasoning, she was creating circumstances that would make it difficult to sell her home.

Posted by John Elwell, You Deserve a Full-Time Agent, Not Reduced Results (CENTURY 21 Bill Nye Realty, Inc.) over 9 years ago

It's tough to sell a secret. I had a very similar situation a few years back and politely declined the listing. We need all the tools in our toolbox to sell in this marketplace.

Posted by Cheryl Ritchie, Southern Maryland 301-980-7566 (RE/MAX Leading Edge www.GoldenResults.com) over 9 years ago

With all the restrictions she was putting on you, I would have walked away from the listing as well.  If you had taken the listing, imagine what your life would have been like.  Police code for that lady is 5150--whacko/whacko.  lol

Posted by Jean Hanley, Specializing in Folks Who Want To Buy/Sell Homes (Coldwell Banker Kivett Teeters) over 9 years ago

I like Don's comment about......."I'd rather turn you down than let you down"  That says it all!

Posted by Patricia Aulson, Realtor - Portsmouth NH Homes-Hampton NH Homes (BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY HOME SERVICES Verani Realty NH Real Estate ) over 9 years ago

Very true Patricia. Works for those who have unrealistic ideas of asking prices as well. And sometimes, when the first agent who gives in and then fails, you will get the call to handle the deal at a more reasonable price mark.

Posted by John Elwell, You Deserve a Full-Time Agent, Not Reduced Results (CENTURY 21 Bill Nye Realty, Inc.) over 9 years ago

I think you were wise not to take the listing. Apart from all of the impossible upfront restrictions there may also have been a lot of other ones once you got the listing. Who knows???????????

:)

Posted by Jody Keating, Broker/MM/Realtor, Bryan / College Station, TX (Jody Keating Connective Realty,LLC, Bryan/College Station,TX) over 9 years ago

Good that you passed on that Ladys house. Can't have a Secret sale as it doesn't happen and at a reduced price?. Un-happy seller & a frustrated agent.

Posted by Cameron Wilson, The Short Guy - Murrieta,Temecula,Menifee Californ (Labrum Real Estate) over 9 years ago

If a sign is allowed, then you will get a sign. I could care less what the neighbors think. My guess is that the neighbors would probably be your best advertisers.

Posted by Mike Russell, Overland Park Kansas Real Estate (Mike Russell & Associates) over 9 years ago

I agree with you that a sign is usually a good thing.  I think this case not taking this listing was a good idea.  Who needs 2 years of aggravation.  I know as a buyer's agent I would not be interested in parking 1/2 mile away.

Posted by Dr. Stacey-Ann Baugh, A doctor who makes house calls. (Century 21 New Millennium) over 9 years ago

One of my colleagues today had buyers who wanted to see a home they liked, but on the listing form it said that they would need to call THREE days ahead of time before they could see it. Surprise, the buyers were insulted and said "Next!".  What are these sellers and possibly their agent thinking? And in the end the agent who was fool enough to take the listing will no doubt be blamed for the lack of showing activity. What you wanna bet????

Posted by John Elwell, You Deserve a Full-Time Agent, Not Reduced Results (CENTURY 21 Bill Nye Realty, Inc.) over 9 years ago

It's best to walk away from sellers who place insist on too many restrictions. They only act as a barrier to the sale and often results in the home not selling. They work against themselve.s

Posted by Bernadine Hunter, SFR, ACRE, "Finding Solution to Your Real Estate Needs" (Keller Williams Greater Columbus Realty) over 9 years ago

Interesting. Keep an eye on it and lets see if she comes back around to you with different conditions.

Posted by Billie Hillier, Savvy Home Realty Solutions (http://702IsHome.com) over 9 years ago

John, that is a listing I also would have declined - the parking request was the coup de gras! We took a listing recently and they wanted no sign. After a few wees when all the neighbors knew and the kids had gotten used to the idea, we put the sign up.

Posted by Sharon Alters, Realtor - Homes for Sale Fleming Island FL (Coldwell Banker Vanguard Realty - 904-673-2308) over 9 years ago

I was faced with a mobile home listing, but was just to busy. I had another agent that I liked who did a lot of mobile home sales. I gave it to her and later received a nice referral check. I never pass listings or buyers that seem to be difficult to work with. If I don't want to work for them, I just refer them to other agents that I know can handle them. Their happy, I'm happy and the sellers or buyers are happy. And if you know a agent you really don't care for, give them the harder clients.

It is not worth working for a difficult client. Life is hard enough, why add to it.

Posted by Mike Baltierra, Full Service at Your Service Realtor-Eastvale CA (Rise Realty ) over 9 years ago

Ive taken listings from sellers who ask that I do not place a sign in the yard, but there were no other restrictions or contingencies. They were very popular local business owners and did not want anyone to know where they lived while they were living there.

 

Posted by Mike Wong, Realtor: Commercial, Residential, Leasing, Invest (Keller Williams Realty Southwest) over 9 years ago

John, I love to see difficult listing instructions because the market is so fierce in my area, by the time you see a property there's ten offers on it. So at least I have a fighting chance because other agents feel the same, that there to many restrictions. I even go look at the ones with no pictures on the MLS.

Posted by Mike Baltierra, Full Service at Your Service Realtor-Eastvale CA (Rise Realty ) over 9 years ago

Not putting a sign on your home is removing a portion of your marketing.  You never know when someone driving the area, because they are looking for something there, would miss that house.  So many times the buyer drives by a home and then calls their agent about it

Posted by Jane Peters, Los Angeles real estate concierge services (Home Jane Realty) over 9 years ago

Too many stipulations always raises a red flag - you were sensible to walk away.

Posted by Lori Cain, Midtown Tulsa Real Estate Top Producer (eXp Realty) over 9 years ago

Maybe she should park her car at the seller psych ward and save herself a walk. Better yet, hire an auctioneer and sell it in one day before her neighbors figure out what's going on...

Posted by Robert Slick, NRBA, RDCPro, Trident/CCAR MLS (Beach and River Homes) over 9 years ago

You have to have the buy in from the people otherwise it is worthless.

Posted by Mike Henderson, HUD Home Hub - 303-949-5848 (Your complete source for buying HUD homes) over 9 years ago

VERY VERY Rarely will I take a listing without a sign going up. 

Thanks for your post!

Tom

Posted by Tom Ramsey (Century 21 Northland) over 9 years ago

John, I think the sign is important but not more important than my Seller's wishes. I too have taken listings when they didn't want a sign. While I don't agree with it typically, I always try to dominate the internet exposure for my listings and feel it is the best way to sell my homes. Great post!

Posted by Melissa Stewart, Your King George Realtor! (Coldwell Banker Elite) over 9 years ago

Hi John,

I think it is a generational thing.  Older people are very private.  I have an aunt in her late eighties and she won't even discuss family medical history.  Period.  "It is nobody's business."

~Lisa

Posted by The Scott Loper Team Bux-Mont Premier Properties (Keller Williams Real Estate - Montgomeryville) over 9 years ago

There's a city in Austin called Lakeway that does not allow for signs. However, their rules don't say anything about the info boxes, so we make stickers to put on the outside like a mini for sale sign. I still don't put flyers in it because that's wasted paper, but make sure they have the number they can text for information.

Posted by Donna Harris, Realtor,Mediator,Ombudsman,Property Tax Arbitrator (Donna Homes, powered by JPAR - TexasRealEstateMediationServices.com) over 9 years ago

I have a listing in a community where the HOA does not allow yard signs. I wish I could have signage there as this area has a lot of walking traffic. However, I did place the lockbox conspicuously so that if anyone looks at the house, they will see the lockbox and that should give them a clue... Hope so!
As for internet marketing with no pics!?!? I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole- folks would assume the worst about the agent. Have a great one-- you did the right thing!

Posted by Ellie Shorb, Realtor DC, MD & VA Luxury Home Expert (Compass Real Estate) over 9 years ago

Signs generate a lot of calls for me.  I love the signs and they are very important.

Posted by Gene Riemenschneider, Turning Houses into Homes (Home Point Real Estate) over 9 years ago

As many of you noted, and I agreed with in my initial post. The sign is not  a deal breaker. I do think they help, but due to sellers requests, sign ordinances, location, or deed restrictions, sometimes we cannot use them. I would have taken it if the "no sign" order was the only problem. But there was no way I was going to look like a fool telling senior citizens to cross four lanes of traffic and walk at least a half a mile to see the home. Not to mention having to inform other agents of this lady's demands. Sometimes, no matter what the reason, we have to say "No". If we all did, perhaps some of the sellers would stop being quite so unreasonable. If no agent will take the home you want to sell for $200,000 (because it is only work $100,000), maybe after getting rejected by 10 agents the seller will start to get the idea more clearly. Sadly, we have agents that will take that listing.

Posted by John Elwell, You Deserve a Full-Time Agent, Not Reduced Results (CENTURY 21 Bill Nye Realty, Inc.) over 9 years ago

Very thought provoking post John.  I can't imagine taking that kind of a listing, how would a person ever have a chance of selling it?  Either the hopeful seller didn't really want to sell or she's not in touch with reality.

Posted by Gary Swanson (Century 21 Harris & Taylor) over 9 years ago

John,

You failed to leave out the very important detail of it being a mobile.  Yes, of course you would stay away from a listing like that but it would have been nice if you had included that one major detail.  I realize that mobiles in Florida are treated like real estate so of course that changes anything.

My answer/response was based on it being a real home.  Sorry if my answer offended you but had this been a real house, then my response would stand but knowing know the difference, I agree with you 100%.

Posted by Russell Benson, We'd love to close your deal at Old Republic! (Old Republic Title) over 9 years ago

John, I have mixed feelings on this subject.  I wish my local municipality would outlaw signs...not only would it save me money on my signs but it would virtually guarantee that FSBO's could not compete with real estate agents!

Posted by Damon Gettier, Broker/Owner ABRM, GRI, CDPE (Damon Gettier & Associates, REALTORS- Roanoke Va Short Sale Expert) over 9 years ago

Whenever a seller starts telling the agent how to do their job, the seller has to go. You did the right thing by passing on the listing. She would have been very high maintenance.

 

 

Posted by Roy Thomas (Sutton Group-Professional Realty) over 9 years ago

Sounds like the first lady you described was a real wacko, and it cost her.  You were right in not taking the listing because you would probably have spent a lot of time for nothing.

Posted by Jirius Isaac, Real Estate & loans in Kenmore, WA (Isaac Real Estate &TriStar Mortgage) over 9 years ago

That first lady was hiding something from her neighbors or creditor. You avoided a mess.

Posted by Wayne B. Pruner, Tigard Oregon Homes for Sale, Realtor, GRI (Oregon First) over 9 years ago

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